dinsdag 27 december 2011

Op zoek naar vrede: Wat nu? (Gershon Baskin, Jerusalem Post)

 
Ik ben het grotendeels met het betoog van Gershon Baskin eens; alleen niet dat de Palestijnen een verdeling van 22%-78% accepteerden maar Israel meer wou. Het klopt dat de meeste Israelische politici niet 100% van de Westoever, Oost-Jeruzalem en Gaza aan de Palestijnen wilden afstaan, hoewel ze er uiteindelijk (Barak en Olmert-Livni) heel dicht in de buurt kwamen; de verdeling van de gebieden was ook een probleem, vooral in en rond Jeruzalem, naast het erkennen van Israel als Joodse staat, de vluchtelingen en of de Palestijnse staat een leger zou hebben en of Israel enig militair toezicht zou houden om zijn veiligheid te bewaken.
 
Vooral het vasthouden aan de terugkeer van de vluchtelingen en hun nakomelingen en de weigering om Joodse nationale rechten te erkennen, doen sterke twijfels rijzen aan de werkelijke acceptatie door de Palestijnen van een tweestatenoplossing, nog los van hoe ze intern op hun aanspraken hameren en de Joodse aanspraken in alle toonaarden verwerpen. De oplossing van het conflict ligt helaas niet zo dichtbij als Baskin suggereert....
 
Wouter
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Encountering Peace: What now?

By GERSHON BASKIN
26/12/2011

Allowing the two-state solution to die would spell the end of the Zionist dream and the collapse of all we have worked to build in the Land of Israel.

 

I really don’t get it. Can someone please explain to me what happens when there really is no longer a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? We better start coming up with answers because we are almost there.

The bi-national reality that successive Israeli governments since 1967 have created in the West Bank, or Judea and Samaria if you like, is almost beyond partition. Since 1937 the most reasonable, I would say the most Zionist solution that almost the entire world designed and now still supports presupposes that this conflict is essentially one between two national groups claiming the same piece of territory. Because neither side wants to be ruled by the other, nor do they want to live together in one democratic state, the obvious solution is partition.

But as time went by the map of the partition went against the side that refused this solution – namely the Palestinians. In 1988 they finally accepted the partition solution and agreed, at least among themselves, that their State of Palestine would be established on 22 percent of the land between the River and the Sea.

The problem is that the other side, namely Israel, did not agree to the 22%-78% split.

Israel wanted more. So today, those Palestinians, at least the core of their leadership, are rapidly coming to the conclusion that partition is no longer a viable option. But what now? If they don’t want it, and we don’t want it, then what do we want, and can we agree on it across the conflict line? The partition plan has always been incredibly logical and rational. It is based on the assertion that there are in fact two peoples – at least there are two people who each call themselves a people. It is predicated on the principle in international relations of the right of self-determination – in other words, if you call yourself a people, you look like a people, you have a common history, a common culture and language and a common perception of a joint future then you are a people.

As such, as a people or a nation, you have to right to have a territorial expression of your identity. At least that’s the way it works for nation-states, at least that is how we, Israel, base our right for a state of our own.

Our Declaration of Independence is a document which sets out to make our claim and to justify our existence as a people. The United Nations partition plan of November 1947 legalized our claim into an internationally recognized decision, but at the same time recognized the right of the Arabs living in Palestine (in other words Palestinians) to also have a state of their own.

IF WE have indeed tossed out the partition option and we are left with two peoples in one state, how do we continue to have a state of our own? When the territorial solution is no longer possible, we either fight it out until death or exhaustion or we come to some kind of partnership of sharing. Once upon a time it could have been acceptable for some (mostly those who had power and money) for one people to rule over another – even if the ruling side was a numerical minority. Those days are long gone.

There are those among us who think that we can rule over the whole land and “allow” the Palestinians to have citizenship in another country across the river. There are others who think that because there are so many other Arab countries that the Palestinians should simply pick up and move to one of them. There are still others who think that the Palestinians will agree to have some form of autonomy meaning some kind of municipal government with no national rights.

All you have to do is put yourself into their shoes. Would you accept to live in one country and to not have equal rights with the other citizens in that country? Would you agree to have your national expression and identity in a country over the border and not in your own country? Would you agree to live in small enclosed communities without the right to reside anywhere within the boundaries of your own land while another people has the right to live anywhere they want, even on your land? Would you accept having only some form of municipal autonomy and not full national rights in your own country? It is easy to make proposals for the other side that you would never accept for yourself.

Why should any Palestinian agree to live under Israeli-Jewish rule and not to be able to pick up and live in Jaffa, Haifa, Ramle or Lod, while you can live anywhere in Judea and Samaria that you please? What makes your right more justified than their right? If your answer is because God gave us this land, then there is no way to have a rational logical discussion.

The Palestinians can just as easily claim that all of Palestine is waqf – a Muslim trust given by Allah to Muslims. This can also not be argued on a rational logical level. If this conflict emerges to be one of religion – my God against your God, then we will never be able to live in peace.

For the past 100 years this has not been a religious conflict. It has been a territorial conflict and it is about to become an identity conflict – whose national identity is expressed on the territory in question? Or in other words, who rules this place – us or them? We have a very short period of time remaining before we may have to come to the conclusion that there is no longer any resolution to this conflict that enables us to have a Jewish nation-state in the Land of Israel. If this happens, God forbid, it will be the end of the Zionist movement and the end of the dream that so many have worked so hard for so long to create and sustain.

The writer is the co-chairman of IPCRI, the Israel Palestine Center for Research and Information and a radio host on All for Peace Radio. 
 

Gershon Baskin, Ph.D. 
P.O. Box 9321, Jerusalem 91092
Cellphone: +972-(0)52-238-1715
gershonbaskin@gmail.com   

http://gershonbaskin.com 

http://gershonbaskin.org 

 

maandag 12 december 2011

Circus Request: Giel Beelen zonder Glazen Huis in Sittard - 19 december 2011

 
Een serieus verzoek?
 
Sittard-Geleen probeerde afgelopen jaar om het Glazen Huis naar de Sittardse Markt te halen, in een mix van de stad op de kaart zetten en een goed doel steunen (ik laat het aan de lezer wat zwaarder zou hebben gewogen...). Dat was natuurlijk kansloos, daar is ons stadje aan de Kötelbaek veel te klein voor.
 
Toch krijgt Zitterd nu de 'next best thing', want sympathieke Giel komt een dag langs met een reizend circus dat Serieus Request ondersteunt.
 
Wouter
 

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Op maandag 19 december ontvangt Sittard‐Geleen in Fenix Poppodium het Circus Request van 3FM‐ DJ Giel Beelen. Giel Beelen zit dit jaar tijdens Serious Request niet in het Glazen Huis maar gaat 'on tour' langs vijf verschillende poppodia kriskras door het hele land. Poppodium Fenix in Sittard‐Geleen is een van deze vijf plaatsen geworden waar het Circus Request zijn tenten opslaat. En dan ook nog eens de plek waar Giel's Circus Request aftrapt! Daarmee zijn we het enige podium in Limburg en daar zijn we natuurlijk trots op. Zo kunnen we ons beste beentje voorzetten voor het goede doel van Serious Request 2011, namelijk moeders die geraakt zijn door oorlog en conflictsituaties.

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Circus Request in Sittard-Geleen!

http://www.sittard-geleen.nl/Actueel/Nieuws_en_persberichten/December_2011/Circus_Request_in_Sittard_Geleen 

Op maandag 19 december komt 3 FM-DJ Giel Beelen naar Sittard-Geleen met Circus Request. Giel Beelen zal die dag vanuit Poppodium Fenix en de binnenstad van Sittard opdrachten vervullen om geld in te zamelen voor Serious Request 2011. Uiteraard heeft hij daarbij hulp nodig van bezoekers van de stad. Er wordt regelmatig live geschakeld met het Glazen Huis in Leiden.


Kom ook!

Steun Serious Request 2011 en kom ook op 19 december naar Sittard! Je kunt je donaties misschien wel live overhandigen tijdens het Circus Request van Giel Beelen.

Heb je een leuk idee voor een actie om geld in te zamelen of een bijdrage te leveren aan het programma op 19 december? Stuur dan een mailtje naar circusrequest@fenix.nl

Serious Request 2011

Serious Request 2011 zet zich dit jaar in voor moeders die getroffen zijn door oorlogs- en conflictsituaties. Giel Beelen zit dit jaar niet in het Glazen Huis, maar gaat vijf dagen on tour langs vijf verschillende poppodia door heel Nederland. Naast Sittard-Geleen doet het Circus Request ook Hengelo, Arnhem, Groningen en Tilburg aan.

>> Kijk ook op de website van Serious Request 

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